Audio Quality: Qualitative Analysis

For our qualitative audio analysis, we would like to stress again that listening to analog outputs on PC audio cards is a very subjective and difficult task. Digital should be used where possible, but the majority of people still run analog. And so the quality of analog output is still of the utmost importance.

-- 16-bit/44.1kHz/2-Channel Test: The Mangroves Live at Tir na Nog

This recording was done using a DigiDesign ProTools LE Digi 002 setup on a G5 at a local bar in Raleigh. Though the 1 room + 2 vox + 5 instrument mic setup (for a three piece indi/rock band) left a little to be desired, and the mix down was less than stellar, this gig makes an excellent test track. On the Gina3G and Intel solutions, it's easy to separate the noise and the music, but on the Audigy 2, the audience sounded a little smashed into the band. This problem wasn't as bad on the Audigy 4, but the crowd noise on the other cards seemed a little less muddy and thick. It's likely that any 44.1kHz audio source with a lot of high end will produce a muddled low end on Audigy cards because of the poor IMD at high frequencies. Just because we can't hear the high fequencies that are interfering doesn't mean that we can't hear the product of their interferance.


-- 24-bit/96kHz/6-Channel Test: Creative Labs Demo DVD-Audio

It was hard to decide on what media to choose, so we just pulled a track that we liked from the Creative sample disk. We went with Mannheim Steamroller - Leonardo from their American Gramaphone album. The track fits their normal eclectic style and mixes intricate rhythms with walking melodies. The synth harpsichord on drums is quite interesting. We used PowerDVD to play back the DVD-Audio on all 4 cards, and didn't have any problems. The voicing was clear all around, and try as we might, we couldn't discern one card from another. If we really cranked the volume to painful levels, we could hear some noise on the Intel solution. Unfortunately, there is no way to play DVD-Audio out over a digital connection to a receiver. This makes the analog signal quality of the card of the highest importance if DVD-Audio listening is going to be performed on the PC.


-- DVD-Video Tests: The Matrix / Dream Theatre Live at Budokan

We wanted to test a movie and a live audio performance with our DVD test. The Matrix is always fun to watch, so we just couldn't help popping that one in. And who's better live than Dream Theater? OK, so that may be totally subjective, but they at least create a lot of sound, and being a drummer, it's hard not to want to sit and listen to Mike Portnoy for multiple hours. Both The Matrix and Dream Theater Live at Budokan took full advantage of our 5.1 surround system, though we preferred listening to Dream Theatre using the higher quality headphones in stereo while watching. And so, we listened both ways on each card just to cover the bases.

And what do you know, but we just couldn't find favor with any of these cards. Each did as good of a job as the last playing back these higher quality audio streams.

The only discernable differences in our listening tests came in at 16-bit/44.1kHz on the Audigy series of cards. Tying it back to RMAA, we can point to the poor IMD performance. On a design level, some sites point out that this problem could stem from the fact that the creative DSP is locked at 16-bit/48kHz, and 44.1 is not an even multiple of 48 (as 96 and 192 are). This odd multiple resampling could be causing the issues, but that seems likely only if the DSP were enabled (some EAX/EQ/filtering turned on). In our RMAA tests and during playback, we made sure to disable these features, so this shouldn't have been a factor.

It is possible to have your favorite media player upsample your 44.1kHz media up to 48kHz, which would cause less problems than forcing a native 48kHz device to operate at 44.1kHz. Check the help files for resampling options.


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  • S0me1X - Friday, February 4, 2005 - link

    There are many more factors that effects the sound quality than just the chipset...
  • knitecrow - Friday, February 4, 2005 - link

    Onkyo SE-150PCI is a via ENVY24 based soundcard. I expect it to be like all hi-end VIA ENVY24 based cards.
  • vailr - Friday, February 4, 2005 - link

    Please also consider, for camparison:
    Onkyo SE-150PCI PC Digital Audio Board
    http://www.audiocubes.com/product_info.php?product...
  • knitecrow - Friday, February 4, 2005 - link

    Its a good primer, got my hopes up... I would have liked to seen a more comprehensive round-up

    The soundcards/audio solutions I would like to get compared:

    Consumer ENVY24 boards:
    $25 chaintech AV-710 (i've found to sound as good as any audigy)
    $100 M-audio Revolution 7.1 or Audiotrak Prodigy 7.1


    Pro ENVY24 cards:
    M-audio audiophile 2496

    I like the suggestions about
    Creative Live! & turtle beach santa cruze
    realtek alc850 onboard
    analog devices onboard
    nvidia nf2 soundstorm

    I'll look forward to such a roundup.
  • S0me1X - Friday, February 4, 2005 - link

    However, its not something I'd get if I just want the highest quality sq from a computer ;)
  • S0me1X - Friday, February 4, 2005 - link

    Motu 828 looks interesting :) Firewire is another excellent interface for this application, if implemented properly.
  • tr1kstanc3 - Friday, February 4, 2005 - link

    still a good review and i do hope you follow up on your conclusion to test real "pro-audio" interfaces!
  • tr1kstanc3 - Friday, February 4, 2005 - link

    my motu 828 mkii puts the smackdown on those reviewed cards... gina is decent but i wouldnt quite put it at the 'pro' level. should have used something slightly better like a digidesign 002, motu 828/896, rme...
  • S0me1X - Friday, February 4, 2005 - link

    #69
    You should consider EMU0404 or EMU1212 ($100 and $200, respectively).
    Even better would be to use digital out from Chaintech AV710 ($25, can be flashed to Prodigy 7.1 firmware and get bitperfect digital out) to a nice external DAC. There are a lot of options for the external DAC, one of the best for this purpose is Benchmar DAC1, which can be had for $975.
  • sparky001 - Friday, February 4, 2005 - link

    Since we are in an era of htpc's. I think we need clarification on playback more than we do recording.

    I think most people that acctually wanted to do recording would go get a dedicated recording solution.

    But because of limited drivers and the like (linux) most playback cards tend to be of the consumer variety.

    I very much would like to see the ENVY chips reviewed. And a short piece on OS compatibility.

    People will have very specific perposes for looking at these audio reviews. ie
    Games- SPdif
    Games- Analogue
    Playback-SPdif
    Playback-Analogue
    Recording-All
    I guess.

    Also unfortunatly the domanant audio source is still 16bit/44.1hkz. Since my HTPC has to playback every CD that I have on my server in uncompressed WAV format, I want the best card for that purpose.

    Thanks Derek.

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