Overclocking Potential of Intel's 65nm Processors

The biggest question on our mind was how far we could push Intel's new 65nm processors. Keep in mind that these are still early 65nm samples and the actual launch is still some time away, so overclocking potential could very well improve beyond what we report here. That being said, the launch of Cedar Mill and Presler is quite possibly the last time that we will be able to hit extremely high clock speeds for a very long time on Intel processors, so we were quite curious.

First up was Cedar Mill, which we had running at 3.60GHz at 1.300V by default. Our first test was to see how far we could get it without increasing the core voltage, and the best that we could do there was 4.25GHz (250MHz x 17.0).

Our next test was to see how high we could push the 3.60GHz processor on a stock Intel HSF. The result ended up being 4.50GHz at 1.4125V, using a 250MHz FSB and the chip's default 18x clock multiplier:

We were able to POST at speeds as high as 4.73GHz, but even after increasing the voltage significantly, we couldn't get the chip to be stable. A 3.60GHz Prescott can generally get as high as 4.2GHz, so we achieved a bit more headroom at 65nm.

Next up was the dual-core Presler, which ran at a stock speed of 3.40GHz at 1.300V. Without increasing the core voltage at all, we couldn't break 3.5GHz on our Presler sample, so we went straight to bumping up the voltage. At 1.3625V, we managed to get Presler up to 4.25GHz (250MHz x 17.0), which was a fairly reasonable boost. The best overclocks that we have seen on a Smithfield based Pentium D have taken the chip up to 3.9GHz, so breaking 4.0GHz on a dual core Pentium D is pretty impressive (especially with twice the cache).

It shouldn't be too surprising that Presler and Cedar Mill overclocked to reasonably similar levels, given that Presler is nothing more than two Cedar Mills on a single package, rather than a physically larger die.

Introducing Cedar Mill and Presler Power Consumption of Intel’s 65nm Processors
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  • Viditor - Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - link

    quote:

    However until AMD manages to make public some plans for innovation beyond new sockets, I think Intel has a good chance at overtaking AMD in the performance realm with slow and steady progress


    Fair enough...but certainly not with a Netburst chip. If I were AMD, I probably wouldn't release much info at this point either...
    1. As this shows, there really isn't any competition until the end of 06.
    2. Anouncing any concrete changes early risk creating an http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect">Osbourne effect.
    3. Anticipation of the new Intel architecture is too far down the track to cut into current AMD sales.
    While there certainly are a few hints at some of the things to come (which AT mentions http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?...">here), there have been any number of stealth releases from AMD in the past (for example, nobody knew how much cooler the Rev E chips would end up being).
    Sadly for us, we just can't predict what is going to happen at the end of next year...
    How good will Conroe (et al) actually perform?
    What will AMDs products actually be?
  • Doormat - Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - link

    Yea, the chips still consume a whole lot of power, but 4.25GHz dual core is very competitive - and from some leaked roadmaps, AMD has the X2-5000 on tap for Q1'06 as well.

    I'm curious to know what the load temps were for those 4+GHz overclocks. And on the stock Intel HSF, right? I wonder what those crazy guys who use LN2 will get them too...
  • Kalessian - Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - link

    Yawn, I overclocked my 1.8ghz Venice by 1gz a long time ago, and 1ghz on a K8 is much more powerful than 1ghz on a p4.

    You guys should have tested the lower end CPUs (2.8ghz or 3.2ghz) to test the limits. If those could push a 1500mhz+ increase I'd be impressed.

    I bet I run cooler, too.

    Not that progress is bad, mind you. I'm all for 65nm.

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