Intel's Pentium Extreme Edition 955: 65nm, 4 threads and 376M transistors
by Anand Lal Shimpi on December 30, 2005 11:36 AM EST- Posted in
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Presler vs. Smithfield - A Brief Look
Other than the larger L2 cache, Presler as incorporated in the Pentium Extreme Edition 955 provides us with two more enhancements over Smithfield: 1066MHz FSB support and a higher clock speed (3.46GHz).
We wanted to isolate the performance improvement due to the larger L2 cache aside from the other improvements to Presler, so we underclocked our sample and its FSB, and compared it to a Pentium D 820 (2.8GHz).
Looking at a small subset of our tests, we can get a feel for where you can expect the largest performance gains due simply to the increase in L2 cache size. Remember that since L2 access latency on Smithfield was already at 27 cycles, Presler's cache isn't any slower, so what we end up measuring is how large of an impact a 2MB cache has in some of our benchmarks.
Under Business Winstone 2004, we see a boost of just under 3%, thanks to the larger cache size. We have seen the biggest improvements in Winstone, thanks to lower latency caches and higher clock speeds, so it's not too much of a surprise to see a minimal impact here. Content Creation Winstone 2004 shows no real performance impact either.
Our 3D rendering, video encoding and audio encoding tests basically all agree with the earlier results - the added cache doesn't really improve performance here, but that's to be expected, given the nature of the applications (and the already quite large 1MB L2 cache to which we are comparing).
It isn't until we look at some of our 3D gaming tests that we start to see some more tangible performance gains. In games, there are some decent performance improvements to be had, ranging anywhere from 0 to just under 6%, thanks to the larger cache alone.
Couple the larger cache with a faster FSB and higher clock speed, and the Pentium Extreme Edition 955 is shaping up to be a decent improvement over its predecessor.
Other than the larger L2 cache, Presler as incorporated in the Pentium Extreme Edition 955 provides us with two more enhancements over Smithfield: 1066MHz FSB support and a higher clock speed (3.46GHz).
We wanted to isolate the performance improvement due to the larger L2 cache aside from the other improvements to Presler, so we underclocked our sample and its FSB, and compared it to a Pentium D 820 (2.8GHz).
Looking at a small subset of our tests, we can get a feel for where you can expect the largest performance gains due simply to the increase in L2 cache size. Remember that since L2 access latency on Smithfield was already at 27 cycles, Presler's cache isn't any slower, so what we end up measuring is how large of an impact a 2MB cache has in some of our benchmarks.
| Winstone | Business Winstone 2004 | Multimedia Content Creation Winstone 2004 |
| Presler | 19.0 | 30.2 |
| Smithfield | 18.5 | 29.9 |
Under Business Winstone 2004, we see a boost of just under 3%, thanks to the larger cache size. We have seen the biggest improvements in Winstone, thanks to lower latency caches and higher clock speeds, so it's not too much of a surprise to see a minimal impact here. Content Creation Winstone 2004 shows no real performance impact either.
| Media Encoding | 3dsmax 7 Composite | DVD Shrink | WME9 | H.264 | iTunes |
| Presler | 2.03 | 9.1m | 31.3fps | 10.5m | 50s |
| Smithfield | 2.05 | 8.9m | 31.0fps | 10.5m | 50s |
Our 3D rendering, video encoding and audio encoding tests basically all agree with the earlier results - the added cache doesn't really improve performance here, but that's to be expected, given the nature of the applications (and the already quite large 1MB L2 cache to which we are comparing).
| Gaming | Battlefield 2 | Call of Duty 2 | Quake 4 |
| Presler | 77.3 | 76.2 | 130.6 |
| Smithfield | 73.0 | 75.6 | 125.5 |
It isn't until we look at some of our 3D gaming tests that we start to see some more tangible performance gains. In games, there are some decent performance improvements to be had, ranging anywhere from 0 to just under 6%, thanks to the larger cache alone.
Couple the larger cache with a faster FSB and higher clock speed, and the Pentium Extreme Edition 955 is shaping up to be a decent improvement over its predecessor.
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JarredWalton - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link
See above post. The 3800+ OC article has the BF2 benchmarks/tools in it.bob4432 - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link
thanks, i had just found that. excellent tool ;). what is the difference between average fps and actual fps?Spacecomber - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link
If you need more direction on how to go about creating and running a timedemo in BF2, take a look at http://www.overclockers.com.au/article.php?id=3841...">this article over at overclockers.com.au.The timedemo records the time it takes for each frame to be rendered over the course of the demo being run. It sums these times and divides by the number of frames to come up with an average. You end up with just one number standing in for a rather large collection of data. Some sites, such as hardocp, try to show more than just an average, usually by presenting a graph of the framerates over the length of the timedemo. This can be helpful, because when you are trying to evaluate how well a particular hardware setup will work with your favorite game, you really are looking to see whether it will maintain playable minimun framerates at the resolution and graphics settings that you want to use. An average alone only gives you a rough idea about this, though it does give you a quick and dirty way to compare different video cards in the same game setting.
If you create and run a Battlefield 2 timedemo and look at the complete results, you'll see how very wide the range of framerates is. For example, running the timedemo, I have gotten an average of 50 fps, but the range is from 2 to 105 fps, with a standard deviation of 12.3. Graphing out the individual frame rates will let you see how often the frame rates drop below 20 fps, for example, which many would consider too low for online gaming.
http://www.sequoyahcomputer.com/Analysis/BF2memory...">Here is a graph of a BF2 timedemo. It's for the data that gave me an average of 50 fps that I mentioned previously. Although 50 fps sounds like an ok average, looking at the graph, you can see that many might consider these settings on this hardware to be barely playable.
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bob4432 - Saturday, December 31, 2005 - link
thanks, what program did you use to graph the data?Spacecomber - Saturday, December 31, 2005 - link
The full results of the time demo are saved in a csv file, timedemo_framerates.csv, which can be opened with a spreadsheet program. I used the spreadsheet program in OpenOffice to view the data and eliminate the framerates that are erroneously recorded before the actual gameplay demo has begun (they are easy to recognize, since they are at the begining of the data and unnaturally high), and I also used the spreadsheet program to graph the data.Space
JarredWalton - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link
I believe Anand is using the same benchmark that I http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?...">linked in my Overclocking article. He's probably running the 1.12 version now, which would account for the slightly lower scores than what I got with the 1.03 version and demo files. BF2 is VERY GPU limited, so even at 1024x768 you will start to hit FPS limits on high-end systems. You can see in the above page how FPS scaled with CPU speed on an X2 3800+ chip, and I only improve average frame rates by 18% with a 35% overclock at 1024x768. That dropped to 8% at 1280x1024 and less than 4% at 1600x1200 and above.danidentity - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link
Has there been any official word on whether or not 975X will support Conroe?coldpower27 - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link
a 975X Rev 2.0 is probably needed. However the i965 Chipser series for sure as they are rumored to be launched simultaneously.Shintai - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link
You gonna need i965 I bet for sure, specially if Conroe gonna use a 1333Mhz bus.However, Merom should fit in Yonah Socket (Conroe mobile part)
Beenthere - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link
Every hardware site that has tested the power consumption and operating temps of Presler knows full well this is a 65 nano FLAME THROWER almost making the P4 FLAME THROWER look good by comparison. "Normal" operating temps of 80 C are OUTRAGEOUS as is equal or higher power consumption than the FLAME THROWING P4 series. And as the benches show -this is a Hail Mary approach by Intel to baffle the naive with B.S. No one with a clue would touch this inferior CPU design. And to add insult to injury, after the Paper Launch -- when they are actually available for purchase in Feb. or later, the asking price is $999. Yeah, I'll run right out and buy a truckload of Preslers to use for space heaters in my house...