ATI's New High End and Mid Range: Radeon X1950 XTX & X1900 XT 256MB
by Derek Wilson on August 23, 2006 9:52 AM EST- Posted in
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A Matter of Memory: Revisiting the Mid-Range
When 512MB cards first came along (with the GeForce 7800 GTX 512), we ran some performance tests to try and ascertain the real world performance difference between these cards and ones with 256MB of RAM. We came up empty handed at the time. Today we are able to show that memory sizes above 256MB are actually starting to matter. With ATI's launch of the new X1900 XT 256MB, we have a direct comparison between two cards which are almost identical aside from the amount of memory on board. To be completely fair, X1900 XT 256MB cards built by ATI will also have full HDCP support, keys and all, but the major difference remains RAM.
ATI dropped down to eight 8Mx32 as opposed to the eight 16Mx32 GDDR3 modules used on the original X1900 XT. Memory speed, bandwidth, and even layout can remain the same between cards, with only a slight difference in timings due to the different capabilities of each chip type. The result is that the X1900 XT 256MB is a slower solution than the X1900 XT that still offers exceptional performance for a terrific price.
The graphs below compare the new $279 X1900 XT 256MB to the rest of the sub-$300 cards we included in last week's mid-range GPU roundup. Note that the X1900 XT's chief competitor is NVIDIA's GeForce 7900 GT, which itself can be found for around $270. However, for as little as $20 more you can get a factory overclocked 7900 GT such as the eVGA GeForce 7900 GT KO SC clocked at 580/790 that all of the sudden becomes far more competitive. Because of the prevelance of factory overclocked (and warrantied) 7900 GTs, we've included the eVGA card as a reference of what you can get for the same price.
The 256MB drop in memory size doesn't impact BF2 enough to drop performance below the 7900 GT. The overclocked EVGA card does out perform even the 512MB X1900 XT in this test, but the 256MB version doesn't loose much value here as 85 fps is still way more than playable.
The 256MB X1900 XT falls in performance to just below the level of the stock 7900 GT. The competition is still tight, and we are about on par for the money here.
If F.E.A.R. performance is important to you, the X1900 XT 256MB is a better value than even the overclocked 7900 GT. The 512MB card still retains a small 5.5% lead over the 256MB card. This is one of the smaller performance drops we will see.
Under HL2:Ep1, performance drops a very small amount, but both X1900 XT cards are in strong competition with the overclocked 7900 GT.
Quake 4 does give the 512MB card a bit of an advantage at 1600 x 1200, but the performance of the 256MB X1900 XT is still quite respectable given its target price of $279. The stock GeForce 7900 GT isn't in the same league as the X1900 XT.
Spinter Cell rounds out our tests as one of those games where the larger frame buffer on the older X1900 XT does not do much. You lose less than 4% of your performance when going to the cheaper 256MB X1900 XT, which is a trade off we can live with. The regular GeForce 7900 GT can't hope to keep up with the 256MB X1900 XT, but if you get one of the factory overclocked cards such like the eVGA GeForce 7900 GT KO SC (more acronyms please) then you'll actually have performance competitive to the X1900 XT 256MB.
If the X1900 XT 256MB actually debuts at the ATI suggested price of $280, there won't be much of a reason to recommend anything but ATI parts from $220 up until we reach the highest end parts at above $400 where the lines start to blur again. While performance can fall very short of the X1900 XT 512MB at times, the X1900 XT 256MB remains competitive with our overclocked 7900 GT in every case but Black & White 2. The reduced memory version of the X1900 XT is just what ATI needed to pull out in order to fight back against the incredible overclockability of the 7900 GT.
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Vigile - Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - link
My thought exactly on this one Anand...Anand Lal Shimpi - Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - link
You can run dual monitors with a CrossFire card as well, the CrossFire dongle that comes with the card has your 2nd DVI output on it :)Take care,
Anand
kneecap - Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - link
What about VIVO? The Crossfire Edition does not support that.JarredWalton - Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - link
For high-end video out, the DVI port is generally more useful anyway. It's also required if you want to hook up to a display using HDCP - I think that will work with a DVI-to-HDMI adapter, but maybe not? S-VIDEO and Composite out are basically becoming seldom used items in my experience, though the loss of component out is a bit more of a concern.JNo - Thursday, August 24, 2006 - link
So if I use DVI out and attach a DVI to HDMI adaptor before attaching to a projector or HDTV, will I get a properly encrypted signal to fully display future blu-ray/hd-dvd encrypted content?The loss of component is a bit of a concern as many HDTVs and projectors still produce amazing images with component and, in fact, I gather that some very high resolutions+refresh rates are possible on component but not DVI due to certain bandwidth limitations with DVI. But please correct me if I am wrong. I take Anandtech's point on the crossfire card offering more but with a couple of admittedly small quesiton marks, I see no reason not to get the standard card and crossfire for the second later if you decided to go that route...
JarredWalton - Thursday, August 24, 2006 - link
I suppose theoretically component could run higher resolutions than DVI, with dual-link being required for 2048x1536 and higher. Not sure what displays support such resolutions with component inputs, though. Even 1080p can run off of single-link DVI.I think the idea with CF cards over standard is that they will have a higher resale value if you want to get rid of them in the future, and they are also more versatile -- TV out capability being the one exception. There are going to be a lot of people that get systems with a standard X1950 card, so if they want to upgrade to CrossFire in the future they will need to buy the CrossFire edition. We all know that at some point ATI is no longer going to make any of the R5xx cards, so if people wait to upgrade to CrossFire they might be forced to look for used cards in a year or two.
Obviously, this whole scenario falls apart if street prices on CrossFire edition cards end up being higher than the regular cards. Given the supply/demand economics involved, that wouldn't be too surprising, but of course we won't know for another three or four weeks.
UNESC0 - Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - link
thanks for clearing that up Anand, news to me!TigerFlash - Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - link
I was wondering if anyone thinks it's wise to get an intel core duo 2 motherboard with crossfire support now that AMD is buying out ATI. Do you think ATI would stop supporting Intel motherboards?johnsonx - Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - link
Of course not. AMD/ATI isn't stupid. Even if their cross-licensing agreement with Intel didn't prevent them from blocking Crossfire on Intel boards (which it almost surely does), cutting out that part of the market would be foolish.
dderidex - Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - link
What's with the $99 -> $249 gap?Weren't we supposed to see an X1650XT, too? Based on RV570? ...or RV560? Something?