Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 and Massive Price Cuts
by Anand Lal Shimpi on July 16, 2007 3:04 AM EST- Posted in
- CPUs
Once More, With Feeling
We've already been through one major set of Intel price cuts this year, that was just three months ago after the Core 2 QX6800 launch. The smoke hadn't even cleared from the first round but both AMD and Intel are back in price slashing mode.
AMD already cut its prices before today's article, while Intel's cuts aren't scheduled to take effect until July 22nd (next week). We'll start off with AMD's pricing:
| CPU | Clock Speed | L2 Cache | Price |
| AMD Athlon 64 FX-74 | 3.0GHz | 1MBx2 | $599/pair |
| AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ | 3.0GHz | 1MBx2 | $178 |
| AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+ | 2.8GHz | 1MBx2 | $157 |
| AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ | 2.6GHz | 1MBx2 | $136 |
| AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ | 2.6GHz | 512KBx2 | $125 |
| AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ | 2.5GHz | 512KBx2 | $115 |
| AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ | 2.3GHz | 512KBx2 | $94 |
| AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ | 2.1GHz | 512KBx2 | $73 |
| AMD X2 BE-2350 | 2.1GHz | 512KBx2 | $91 |
| AMD X2 BE-2300 | 1.9GHz | 512KBx2 | $73 |
Hello savings! The fastest Socket-AM2 processor AMD offers now costs less than $200, and only two of AMD's processors sell for over $150. Competition may not be good for AMD's bottom line but it's definitely enabling cheap system builds this year.
As exciting as a $1,000 CPU running a whole 70MHz faster than its predecessor may be, the real story today is how AMD and Intel stack up when you take the latest round of price cuts into account.
Intel's lineup looks very confusing at first, but after the price cuts take effect it'll be a lot easier to recommend processors. The table below has all currently available Intel CPUs (as well as a few that are due out soon), but you'll notice that some lines are in red. The lines in red are products that are available in the market, but no longer make sense to buy after the price cuts next week.
In an attempt to quickly move the market to 1333MHz FSB platforms, Intel has made those chips far more attractive than the previous 1066MHz FSB processors:
| CPU | Clock Speed | FSB | L2 Cache | Availability | Pricing |
| Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 | 3.00GHz | 1333 | 4MBx2 | Now | $999 |
| Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6800 | 2.93GHz | 1066 | 4MBx2 | Now | $999 |
| Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 | 2.66GHz | 1066 | 4MBx2 | Now | $999 |
| Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 | 2.93GHz | 1066 | 4MB | Now | $999 |
| Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 | 2.66GHz | 1066 | 4MBx2 | Now | $530 |
| Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 | 2.40GHz | 1066 | 4MBx2 | Now | $266 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 | 3.00GHz | 1333 | 4MB | Now | $266 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 | 2.66GHz | 1333 | 4MB | Now | $183 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 | 2.66GHz | 1066 | 4MB | Now | $316 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 | 2.40GHz | 1066 | 4MB | Now | $224 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 | 2.33GHz | 1333 | 4MB | Now | $163 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E6540 | 2.33GHz | 1333 | 4MB | Now | $163 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 | 2.13GHz | 1066 | 4MB | Now | $183 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 | 2.13GHz | 1066 | 2MB | Now | $183 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E6320 | 1.86GHz | 1066 | 4MB | Now | $163 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 | 1.86GHz | 1066 | 2MB | Now | $163 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 | 2.40GHz | 800 | 2MB | Q4 | $133 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 | 2.20GHz | 800 | 2MB | Q3 | $133 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 | 2.00GHz | 800 | 2MB | Now | $113 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 | 1.80GHz | 800 | 2MB | Now | $113 |
| Intel Pentium E2180 | 2.00GHz | 800 | 1MB | Q4 | $84 |
| Intel Pentium E2160 | 1.80GHz | 800 | 1MB | Now | $84 |
| Intel Pentium E2140 | 1.60GHz | 800 | 1MB | Now | $74 |
See a trend? Financially it makes no sense to buy any of the 1066MHz FSB CPUs anymore, Intel sure knows how to push new chipsets on a market.
If you remove all the CPUs that no longer make sense to buy from the chart, you actually get a pretty nice and simple processor lineup:
| CPU | Clock Speed | FSB | L2 Cache | Availability | Pricing |
| Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 | 3.00GHz | 1333 | 4MBx2 | Now | $999 |
| Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6800 | 2.93GHz | 1066 | 4MBx2 | Now | $999 |
| Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 | 2.66GHz | 1066 | 4MBx2 | Now | $530 |
| Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 | 2.40GHz | 1066 | 4MBx2 | Now | $266 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 | 3.00GHz | 1333 | 4MB | Now | $266 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 | 2.66GHz | 1333 | 4MB | Now | $183 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 | 2.33GHz | 1333 | 4MB | Now | $163 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E6540 | 2.33GHz | 1333 | 4MB | Now | $163 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 | 2.40GHz | 800 | 2MB | Q4 | $133 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 | 2.20GHz | 800 | 2MB | Q3 | $133 |
| Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 | 2.00GHz | 800 | 2MB | Now | $113 |
| Intel Pentium E2180 | 2.00GHz | 800 | 1MB | Q4 | $84 |
| Intel Pentium E2160 | 1.80GHz | 800 | 1MB | Now | $84 |
| Intel Pentium E2140 | 1.60GHz | 800 | 1MB | Now | $74 |
It's almost like the early days of the Core 2, when model numbers weren't overly confusing for end users, almost.
Motherboard Requirements for 1333MHz FSB?
While there's no official support for 1333MHz FSB CPUs on Intel's P965 and 975X chipsets, many high end P965 motherboards provide unofficial support with little more than a BIOS update. Obviously if you're building a new system today, Intel's 3-series chipsets all enable the 1333MHz FSB and are available with both DDR2 and DDR3 support. We tested with Gigabyte's GA-P35C-DS3R, which offers four DDR2 and two DDR3 slots, giving you the option of either memory technology.
NVIDIA is quick to point out that all of its 680i based motherboards not only support the 1333MHz FSB but will also support Intel's forthcoming Penryn core, all that's necessary is a BIOS update. Motherboards based on Intel's 3-series chipsets should support Penryn just fine, but the verdict isn't out yet on what P965 boards will work with Intel's first 45nm core due out at the end of this year.
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DolphinAMD - Monday, July 16, 2007 - link
nooo! I just bought an Core 2 Duo E6420 for $186The replacement seems like the E6750 at $183
Sunrise089 - Monday, July 16, 2007 - link
sorry buddy, but these prices weren't exactly a secret.lennylim - Monday, July 16, 2007 - link
If you go according to max. multiplier, an important number for overclocking, the pricing makes some kind of sense.Looking at dual cores only, here's the pricing by multiplier.
7x multiplier : $163
8x multiplier : $183
9x multiplier : $224 (E6600) / $266 (E6850)
10x multiplier : $316
Still a damn good price for C2D. And the E6600 is actually a good deal for overclockers.
hubajube - Monday, July 16, 2007 - link
The price of the X2 6000 is $169.99 on Newegg not $180. Even though the new stuff is quicker than AMD's best it's only a little quicker and the $10 difference between them plus the cheaper motherboards for AMD will still pretty much seal the deal for my next upgrade. If the quad cores were $180 then I would be willing to stretch for the extra cost of the Intel motherboards (Intel or Nvidia chipset).MrKaz - Monday, July 16, 2007 - link
Finally someone with brains.I already have said the same with different words.
Did you also notice they only mention the extra price cost on the AMD motherboard because of Quad FX, they don’t mention Intel extra price premium on the motherboard.
The Intel motherboards are very expensive, the ASUS P5N-E SLI for example in my country costs 120€, the AMD version the M2N-E SLI 80€. Its 40€ difference.
Also the only interesting Core 2 Duo is the E6550 which costs $163. Lower than this you get one castrated CPU from Intel.
AMD X2 3600 costs 60€ in my country so its 60+80=140€
Intel E6550 168€ so its 120€+168€=288€
Its “just” 148€ difference or one X1950PRO if you prefer.
Accord99 - Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - link
Why compare the E6550, which is faster than all but the AMD 6000+ with a 3600+ that is slower than Intel's "castrated" Pentium E2160?
hubajube - Monday, July 16, 2007 - link
I was looking at the ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe which is $170 compared to the ASUS P5N32-SLI Premium for $210 here. A $40 difference that I can use towards my 8800GTS and then add the $10 from the CPU difference and I STILL get a computer that plays BF2 or whatever at WELL over 100fps.Pirks - Monday, July 16, 2007 - link
exactly, this is why I'm going to use AMD for my gaming rig for the foreseeable future. cheap AMD cpu plus expensive nvidia 3D video equals best gaming experience, definitely better than that of intel FOR THE SAME PRICE. AMD is the best friend for the gamer, while Intel is the best friend for media encoder/3D renderer kind of guy, or anyone who loads all their four cores at 100%iceburger - Monday, July 16, 2007 - link
I've had the same reasoning for the last 10 years- AMD platform always cost less- sometimes the difference will cover nice video card. IMHO this Intel price cut may backfire for them- the reason you spend money on marketing is to be able to get higher profit margins. Instead of dropping the price, the reasonable decision would have been to "milk" the market- maintain the current separation: high- and mid-end for Intel, low-end for AMD. This price cut is strictly a hostile move aimed to bury AMD's entire line and force them to lose even more with consecutive AMD price cut. However Intel has higher fixed development cost and even if they sell more CPUs, their profit will be lower- it's a lose-lose situation. Reminds me of GWB's tax cuts.Sunrise089 - Monday, July 16, 2007 - link
Only problem with all of this otherwise sound reasoning is that the same folks who are enough of an enthusiast to know that the AMD MB's can save them a bit, and then apply that savings towards either the GPU or grabbing a higher-end AMD processor are very likely to overclock, and that sort of blows the AMD side of the equation out of the water.I'm and AMD fan myself, but you have to admit, anyone who even considers overclocking their CPU has no business picking the AMD side unless they just want to help the underdog.
Pointing out Anandtech's failure to mention the cheaper AMD platform is fair enough, but it was AT LEAST equally damaging to the Intel side to not show benchmarks from an overclocked 6000+ vs a 6850. Does anyone think it would be close?